Painting and Sculpting Tiki on the iPad and other crazy stuff - Other Crafts

HT Hale Tiki Tiki Socialite Pittsburgh Joined: Oct 19, 2004 Posts: 1799	HT Hale Tiki Posted posted on Wed, Jun 12, 2013 8:49 AM I have to jump in here, because I'm tired of seeing the back and forth malarkey. I've been to two of the best art schools in the country, receiving a bachelors from one of them. One of the smartest things I ever heard a professor say, was that you learn nothing if all you receive in critique is positive feedback. No one's work is perfect, and no one worldview is correct. It's always good to receive opinions be they positive or negative. It helps you learn, it helps you grow. Unless you're Picasso, you suck. Not really, but there's always room for growth. And Gene, you have room for growth. I'm not saying you suck, but you certainly have room for growth. And instead of other people, and it does seem to be mostly aggravated by other people, putting down any negative criticism, take it and learn from it. As far as the iPad goes, I agree with you. It's a portable Wacom Cintiq, which is the greatest invention for the digital realm since, well, computers. A Cintiq is what professional designers use the world over for an unbelievable amount of control. It's just as good if not better than doing things by hand. I'd bank on the better side. And the iPad is like a $400 Cintiq, with less control. And with the right tools, you can create some amazing things with an iPad. I've seen some gorgeous artwork created on an iPad, and Gene, I'll be straight with you, yours does not fall under that category. You have a good start, a load of spirit, and a positive attitude, but again, there's always room for improvement. Consider taking art classes, or watching tutorials online. Hell, I've been working with computers and digital everything since the late 1980s. I'm still learning, and my work still could use improvement. I don't know if you've seen what Adobe just made, but it's going to be a revelation for touch screens. Check out the article: http://www.theverge.com/2013/5/6/4305712/adobe-announces-first-hardware-the-project-mighty-smart-stylus And in the meantime, since you've likened your working style to painting, are you using your finger? Or a stylus? Or a brush? If you haven't seen them, you must check them out. I've used them, and they really are a great tool. Here's the two best that I've used so far: http://www.nomadbrush.com/ https://www.sensubrush.com/ And since you like working with a reference, and who doesn't, consider finding some of the hundreds of books available on tiki culture. I'm of the internet age, but I'll be damned if books don't do an infinitely better job of reference than the internet. I have to compile a list of the best that I've got soon, so I'll be sure to post that on here for you. They're fantastic, and I couldn't do the work I do without being inspired by them. Also, since you do like to paint from reference, have you considered a camera lucida? Don't know what that is? Well, artists have used them for centuries. And no, it's not tracing. It's a wonderful artists tool, and I'm sad that I couldn't get in on this kickstarter, as I'm sure they'll cost a bloddy fortune when they come out. But consider getting one. It'll change your entire artistic experience. AND would be perfect for painting on an iPad. http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/neolucida/neolucida-a-portable-camera-lucida-for-the-21st-ce Man I want one. So in summary, all thoughtful criticism is helpful, no matter how it's conveyed. Some people have more tact than others, some people choose to have more tact than others. No disrespect, ATP. I'm obviously not one to sugar coat things myself. Glean out all the good information you can, and grow as an artist. And for everyone else, stop stirring up shit. You don't need to white knight for someone else, Gene is apparently an older gentleman, well spoken, and capable of defending himself if he's offended. Tiki on, man. Edit: There's nothing wrong with positive criticism, either. You need a little of both to grow. Wendy is great for positive criticism, because she's a warm wonderful person that it's hard not to want to hug. But even her work needs some negative criticism here and there. And what does she do? Takes the suggestions she likes to make awesome mugs even more awesome-er. Nobody's perfect. Learn, grow, keep making art, and do what makes you happy. [ Edited by: hale tiki 2013-06-12 09:13 ]

I have to jump in here, because I'm tired of seeing the back and forth malarkey.

I've been to two of the best art schools in the country, receiving a bachelors from one of them. One of the smartest things I ever heard a professor say, was that you learn nothing if all you receive in critique is positive feedback. No one's work is perfect, and no one worldview is correct. It's always good to receive opinions be they positive or negative. It helps you learn, it helps you grow. Unless you're Picasso, you suck. Not really, but there's always room for growth. And Gene, you have room for growth. I'm not saying you suck, but you certainly have room for growth. And instead of other people, and it does seem to be mostly aggravated by other people, putting down any negative criticism, take it and learn from it.

As far as the iPad goes, I agree with you. It's a portable Wacom Cintiq, which is the greatest invention for the digital realm since, well, computers. A Cintiq is what professional designers use the world over for an unbelievable amount of control. It's just as good if not better than doing things by hand. I'd bank on the better side. And the iPad is like a $400 Cintiq, with less control. And with the right tools, you can create some amazing things with an iPad. I've seen some gorgeous artwork created on an iPad, and Gene, I'll be straight with you, yours does not fall under that category. You have a good start, a load of spirit, and a positive attitude, but again, there's always room for improvement.

Consider taking art classes, or watching tutorials online. Hell, I've been working with computers and digital everything since the late 1980s. I'm still learning, and my work still could use improvement. I don't know if you've seen what Adobe just made, but it's going to be a revelation for touch screens. Check out the article:
http://www.theverge.com/2013/5/6/4305712/adobe-announces-first-hardware-the-project-mighty-smart-stylus

And in the meantime, since you've likened your working style to painting, are you using your finger? Or a stylus? Or a brush? If you haven't seen them, you must check them out. I've used them, and they really are a great tool. Here's the two best that I've used so far:
http://www.nomadbrush.com/
https://www.sensubrush.com/

And since you like working with a reference, and who doesn't, consider finding some of the hundreds of books available on tiki culture. I'm of the internet age, but I'll be damned if books don't do an infinitely better job of reference than the internet. I have to compile a list of the best that I've got soon, so I'll be sure to post that on here for you. They're fantastic, and I couldn't do the work I do without being inspired by them.

Also, since you do like to paint from reference, have you considered a camera lucida? Don't know what that is? Well, artists have used them for centuries. And no, it's not tracing. It's a wonderful artists tool, and I'm sad that I couldn't get in on this kickstarter, as I'm sure they'll cost a bloddy fortune when they come out. But consider getting one. It'll change your entire artistic experience. AND would be perfect for painting on an iPad.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/neolucida/neolucida-a-portable-camera-lucida-for-the-21st-ce

Man I want one.

So in summary, all thoughtful criticism is helpful, no matter how it's conveyed. Some people have more tact than others, some people choose to have more tact than others. No disrespect, ATP. I'm obviously not one to sugar coat things myself. Glean out all the good information you can, and grow as an artist. And for everyone else, stop stirring up shit. You don't need to white knight for someone else, Gene is apparently an older gentleman, well spoken, and capable of defending himself if he's offended.

Tiki on, man.

Edit: There's nothing wrong with positive criticism, either. You need a little of both to grow. Wendy is great for positive criticism, because she's a warm wonderful person that it's hard not to want to hug. But even her work needs some negative criticism here and there. And what does she do? Takes the suggestions she likes to make awesome mugs even more awesome-er. Nobody's perfect. Learn, grow, keep making art, and do what makes you happy.

[ Edited by: hale tiki 2013-06-12 09:13 ]

Post #681696 by Hale Tiki on Wed, Jun 12, 2013 8:49 AM