Anyone recognize this Mug? Kinda Surfing Bastardish - Collecting Tiki

R Rattiki Member Key West, FL Joined: May 03, 2003 Posts: 422	R Rattiki Posted posted on Tue, Jul 8, 2003 6:59 AM On 2003-07-07 10:46, PolynesianPop wrote:What do you mean by that? Its not from the Poly Pop era and its clearly not any style or form from the South Pacific. As such, I have to agree with Chiki Tiki -- this piece is not tiki. On 2003-07-07 11:32, thechikitiki wrote: Chichimeca,tolteca, totonaca,olmeca,maya,mixteca,azteca, Zapotecas, huastecas, coras, tarascos, otomi, or regular ol TJ artisan. I likes them all, but ain't Tiki IMHO. This is the response I was looking for! :wink: So address the statement I also made ""What is Tiki?" as I have LOTS of cool stuff from the Pan-Pacific region that many might be consider Tiki, but is not of the poly pop genre. I mean if Easter Island is Tiki, is Peruvian/Inca? Wasn't that what Thor H. tried to prove?" Maybe some of us have a distaste of Mexican or Central American tribal work (or African) being flogged as 'Tiki', and I can understand that. As thechikitiki was saying "I likes them all, but ain't Tiki IMHO", I too know and love it well (and have a collection of many OLD pieces), but what about Tuhacan & Inca from Peru, Chile and Bolivia? (as this piece looks as it might be) What and where is the line drawn? When is it Poly culture and not Meso-American? I have some Pre-Colombian Tuhacan pieces I bet I could debate as being 'Tiki', and when Indonesian & New Guinea long houses and other Austral/Asian things have been CLEARLY used in the poly-pop genre, who is to truly say? BTW I like a good debate, and I am not looking to have a flame war, I just want to stir this idea around to see what comes of it on a positive level. :)

*On 2003-07-07 10:46, PolynesianPop wrote:*What do you mean by that? Its not from the Poly Pop era and its clearly not any style or form from the South Pacific.

As such, I have to agree with Chiki Tiki -- this piece is not tiki.

On 2003-07-07 11:32, thechikitiki wrote:
Chichimeca,tolteca, totonaca,olmeca,maya,mixteca,azteca, Zapotecas, huastecas, coras, tarascos, otomi, or regular ol TJ artisan. I likes them all, but ain't Tiki IMHO.

This is the response I was looking for! :wink: So address the statement I also made ""What is Tiki?" as I have LOTS of cool stuff from the Pan-Pacific region that many might be consider Tiki, but is not of the poly pop genre. I mean if Easter Island is Tiki, is Peruvian/Inca? Wasn't that what Thor H. tried to prove?"

Maybe some of us have a distaste of Mexican or Central American tribal work (or African) being flogged as 'Tiki', and I can understand that. As thechikitiki was saying "I likes them all, but ain't Tiki IMHO", I too know and love it well (and have a collection of many OLD pieces), but what about Tuhacan & Inca from Peru, Chile and Bolivia? (as this piece looks as it might be) What and where is the line drawn? When is it Poly culture and not Meso-American? I have some Pre-Colombian Tuhacan pieces I bet I could debate as being 'Tiki', and when Indonesian & New Guinea long houses and other Austral/Asian things have been CLEARLY used in the poly-pop genre, who is to truly say?

BTW I like a good debate, and I am not looking to have a flame war, I just want to stir this idea around to see what comes of it on a positive level. :)

Post #42071 by Rattiki on Tue, Jul 8, 2003 6:59 AM