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On 2008-06-10 22:39, bigbrotiki wrote:
On 2008-06-10 20:40, bananabobs wrote:
Actually I'm getting pissed, that ANY person who makes ANYTHING and calls it Tiki could be challenged or hurt by this thread...
But why? How about all the good, talented, hard working artists here that have a right to get pissed because someone calls a "Whatever thing" Tiki ? The whole point of this forum is to promote the development and dissemination of TIKI Culture. Pure self-congratulatory back slapping and inability to accept constructive criticism will eventually lead to a stand still of any culture, and its abandonment by people that truly care for it.
"How about all the good, talented, hard working artists"
Who determines who these people are? And what definition, what criteria will you use to determine good? or talented? That argument and attempt to define art has been going on for a long time;
"Taste is the best judge. It is rare. Art only addresses itself to an excessively small number of individuals." (Paul Cezanne)
"I force myself to contradict myself, so as to avoid conforming to my own taste." (Marcel Duchamp)
"Talent is like a seed which needs fertile soil. There is no less talent now, there is less fertile soil to nourish it." (Darby Bannard)
"Art or talent, for an artist, is merely a means of applying his personal faculties to the ideas and the things of the period in which he lives." (Gustave Courbet)
"Perhaps I have no talent, but all vanity aside – I do not believe that anyone makes an artistic attempt, no matter how small, without having a little – or there are many fools." (Paul Gauguin)
"Pure self-congratulatory back slapping and inability to accept constructive criticism will eventually lead to a stand still of any culture, and its abandonment by people that truly care for it."
I agree completely and disagree completely, a huge portion of this "culture" is an interpretation to begin with. Constructive criticism is a oxymoron, and rarely is. An old adage we use in my Church is "No one cares what you know, until they know that you care" Who and how will anyone speak into the life/art of another? For what purpose? To further YOUR belief? Or YOUR interpretation of art, culture or God?
My daughter, at the age of 4, drew a picture, lying on the living room floor, with three crayons, it was a picture of me she said. We both loved it. I would never critique that picture any more than anything in her Senior art show at Otis. (Truth be know, I treasure the crayon picture most. Not that it is her best work, but maybe it is?!?)
Your book...Art? perhaps.
Tiki, an American art form? Most think so, yet you published your book with German text and English text...
I found it to be annoying and distracting, perhaps even arrogant. I would have done it different. I think I would have done it better/accurate/complete. Who's to say?
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