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B bigbrotiki Tiki Socialite Tiki Island, above the Silverlake Joined: Mar 25, 2002 Posts: 11621	B bigbrotiki Posted posted on Tue, Jun 10, 2008 10:39 PM On 2008-06-10 20:40, bananabobs wrote: Actually I'm getting pissed, that ANY person who makes ANYTHING and calls it Tiki could be challenged or hurt by this thread... But why? How about all the good, talented, hard working artists here that have a right to get pissed because someone calls a "Whatever thing" Tiki ? The whole point of this forum is to promote the development and dissemination of TIKI Culture. Pure self-congratulatory back slapping and inability to accept constructive criticism will eventually lead to a stand still of any culture, and its abandonment by people that truly care for it. I am hopeful that my posts will remind some folks to THINK, and take a good hard look, and maybe go out and consult some Oceanic art books from book stores or libraries, and tap into the creative wealth that lies in that tradition, there is so much I have not seen done. Just repeating a very narrow pattern has much of the Tiki revival going in circles, that is not what excited me about Tiki in the first place. Yes there was always repetition, but within Tiki's stylistic confines, there was an incredible variety and spark of individual interpretation. The comparison to Marcel Duchamp's urinal does not work because the aim of his art was to destroy the old established view of what art was. He did so successfully and formed a new art genre. If you want to do that, go ahead, but don't call it Tiki. The challenge and the fun of new, contemporary Tiki art is to work within its "language", but imbue it with the spark of something new and unique. If that cannot be promoted here because of fear of stepping on people's toes, this site will deteriorate to a social blab fest with no productive consequences.

On 2008-06-10 20:40, bananabobs wrote:
Actually I'm getting pissed, that ANY person who makes ANYTHING and calls it Tiki could be challenged or hurt by this thread...

But why? How about all the good, talented, hard working artists here that have a right to get pissed because someone calls a "Whatever thing" Tiki ? The whole point of this forum is to promote the development and dissemination of TIKI Culture. Pure self-congratulatory back slapping and inability to accept constructive criticism will eventually lead to a stand still of any culture, and its abandonment by people that truly care for it.

I am hopeful that my posts will remind some folks to THINK, and take a good hard look, and maybe go out and consult some Oceanic art books from book stores or libraries, and tap into the creative wealth that lies in that tradition, there is so much I have not seen done. Just repeating a very narrow pattern has much of the Tiki revival going in circles, that is not what excited me about Tiki in the first place. Yes there was always repetition, but within Tiki's stylistic confines, there was an incredible variety and spark of individual interpretation.

The comparison to Marcel Duchamp's urinal does not work because the aim of his art was to destroy the old established view of what art was. He did so successfully and formed a new art genre. If you want to do that, go ahead, but don't call it Tiki. The challenge and the fun of new, contemporary Tiki art is to work within its "language", but imbue it with the spark of something new and unique. If that cannot be promoted here because of fear of stepping on people's toes, this site will deteriorate to a social blab fest with no productive consequences.

Post #386180 by bigbrotiki on Tue, Jun 10, 2008 10:39 PM